BTW, we should update wpa_supplicant210 and wpa_supplicant-devel too.

We should probably submit a pull request to our upstream too. Do you want to do it or should I?

This is now two commits that:

In D46216#1054148, @kevans wrote:

In D46216#1054082, @0mp wrote:

Just an idea: perhaps this could be a sysctl. This way, you could set the setting once and interested programs could check the sysctl value before deciding on being verbose or quiet.

I think that's an overly large hammer, but also that it'd need to be at least two knobs- the precise way in which shutdown(8) is verbose is a different monster than, say, how makefs(8) is verbose. The former is broadcasting messages to ttys of other login sessions, while the latter and most other progarms are just emitting more to stderr/stdout. It also wouldn't preclude the need for flags like these anyways, because you're inevitably going to want to be able to selectively override it in individual programs anyways to avoid causing system-wide verbosity or quiet when you're only interested in, e.g, debugging a single program.