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rGe09104dfb76a: groups.7: New manual page of standard group names
Summary

I'm not 100% sure whether every statement and group description is true for FreeBSD and its current state. Please, point out mistakes in my assumptions.

The group list is sorted by GID. All the group names from /usr/src/etc/group are described, except "uucp": honestly, I don't know what it is used for and what to say about it.

The FILES section was added on top of the original manual page.

PR: 264966
Obtained from: NetBSD

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tembun_bk.ru created this revision.Dec 7 2025, 9:01 PM
Herald added a subscriber: imp. · View Herald TranscriptDec 7 2025, 9:01 PM
tembun_bk.ru requested review of this revision.Dec 7 2025, 9:01 PM
tembun_bk.ru added inline comments.Dec 7 2025, 9:11 PM
share/man/man7/groups.7
4–5

What should I do with the license? The page was not only imported, but changed for FreeBSD. I also did change some of the original parts.

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I'm not sure if I'm right about this one.

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I'm not quite sure about this one too. If I understand correctly, it must be somehow related to group "uucp" (which is missed), since on my machine /dev/cuau2 is owned by used "uucp" and in group "dialer".

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I'm not sure if it's really unused now. Didn't find much about it in /usr/src.

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As above.

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Didn't have any experience with it, just tried to deduce what it is used for :)

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That's only my guess described here. Maybe there is a different reason why there are "nogroup" and "nobody".

tembun_bk.ru updated this revision to Diff 167684.Dec 8 2025, 8:19 AM
tembun_bk.ru marked an inline comment as not done.

'December' instead of 'Dec'.

tembun_bk.ru mentioned this in D54154: groups.7: Cross-reference in other man pages.Dec 9 2025, 4:41 PM
ziaee added a child revision: D54154: groups.7: Cross-reference in other man pages.Dec 9 2025, 5:19 PM
tembun_bk.ru updated this revision to Diff 167786.Dec 9 2025, 6:06 PM

Add groups(7) cross-references into other man pages.

tembun_bk.ru added a comment.Dec 18 2025, 9:03 AM

I'm also going to port users(7) man page. The structure and the overall idea of these two pages are very similar; do you have some notes/advises that I can learn from this page and apply to users(7)?

tembun_bk.ru added a comment.Jan 3 2026, 9:51 AM

@ziaee I've been thinking: maybe it would be a nice idea to create hard links for this manual page: wheel.7 and operator.7? wheel and operator are the most noticeable groups and people frequently have questions about their purpose, so it would be nice to be able to do man wheel or man operator. We have the similar thing for builtin.1 which has a link to every builtin command: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/share/man/man1/Makefile?id=4b0d5d1d6a7c9773e38882feb4747a76b37a645c#n13

ziaee added a comment.Jan 3 2026, 4:33 PM

Sorry I haven't had time to review this yet!

I don't know about adding mlinks. We can't really do it consistently without creating a lot of collision in the apropos database, which is hard for beginners to navigate.

share/man/man7/groups.7
4–5

The license always stays, that's what the first clause therein says (lines 9 and 10), but add a SPDX tag at the top so we can index it mechanically.

tembun_bk.ru added inline comments.Jan 3 2026, 5:15 PM
share/man/man7/groups.7
4–5

That should be 'SPDX-License-Identifier: BSD-2-Clause', right?

imp added inline comments.Jan 3 2026, 5:32 PM
share/man/man7/groups.7
4–5

Yes. I believe this is the standard BSD-2-Clause, or close enough, that this is the right thing.

tembun_bk.ru updated this revision to Diff 168962.Jan 3 2026, 5:55 PM

Add SPDX-License-Identifier.

tembun_bk.ru marked 2 inline comments as done.Jan 3 2026, 5:55 PM
tembun_bk.ru added a comment.Jan 3 2026, 6:04 PM
In D54114#1244827, @ziaee wrote:

Sorry I haven't had time to review this yet!

I don't know about adding mlinks. We can't really do it consistently without creating a lot of collision in the apropos database, which is hard for beginners to navigate.

@imp (sorry, I'm not sure if you can answer this, but since you've been active on this revision) do you think that adding mlinks would be worth it or it is better to avoid such hard links?

tembun_bk.ru updated this revision to Diff 168970.Jan 3 2026, 7:25 PM

Update diff with -U9999.

tembun_bk.ru added a comment.Jan 29 2026, 8:50 AM

Ping.

tembun_bk.ru added a reviewer: Contributor Reviews (src).Feb 4 2026, 6:19 PM
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tembun_bk.ru updated this revision to Diff 171173.Feb 4 2026, 7:20 PM
  • Document that games group is used by hgame(4) (since b6cad334e64).
  • Correct several mandoc -T lint warnings.
  • Document that bind(8) was removed from the base in FreeBSD 10.0.
  • Replace reference to unbound(8) with local-unbound(8).
  • Remove references to setuid(7), since NetBSD has this page, but FreeBSD does not.
tembun_bk.ru updated this revision to Diff 171328.Feb 6 2026, 2:21 PM

Add MLINKS: wheel.7 and operator.7.

tembun_bk.ru added a comment.Mar 15 2026, 9:13 AM

Could somebody please review this? Or maybe tag appropriate people?

tembun_bk.ru added inline comments.Mar 15 2026, 6:31 PM
share/man/man7/groups.7
41–43

May be that would be relevant to mention that this behaviour can be changed with pam_group(8)? From su(1):

PAM is used to set the policy su will use.  In particular, by default only users in the “wheel” group can switch to UID 0 (“root”).  This group requirement may be changed by modifying the “pam_group” section of /etc/pam.d/su.  See pam_group(8) for details on how to modify this setting.
tembun_bk.ru updated this revision to Diff 175856.Sun, Apr 19, 12:49 PM

Rebase the patch.
Don't add operator.7 in MLINKS, since this man page already exists.

bcr added a subscriber: bcr.Sat, Apr 25, 2:36 PM

Looks good to me. Thanks for doing the work!

des accepted this revision.Sat, Apr 25, 6:00 PM
This revision is now accepted and ready to land.Sat, Apr 25, 6:00 PM
ziaee added a comment.Sat, Apr 25, 6:02 PM

Awesome! I will merge this on Monday if nobody else has anything to add/does it sooner. Thank you so much, this is a great feature!

share/man/man7/groups.7
341–345

Completely option note or nit: I usually write it like this. The fact it first appeared implies in another operating system explicitly states that it was ported to FreeBSD, therefore no need to mention FreeBSD twice in the same sentence or even have another sentence at all.

tembun_bk.ru updated this revision to Diff 176515.Sat, Apr 25, 9:33 PM

Simplify sentence in HISTORY section.

This revision now requires review to proceed.Sat, Apr 25, 9:33 PM
tembun_bk.ru updated this revision to Diff 176583.Sun, Apr 26, 7:41 PM

Add chgrp(1), id(1) and newgrp(1) in groups(7) SEE ALSO section.

tembun_bk.ru edited the summary of this revision. (Show Details)Sun, Apr 26, 8:05 PM
tembun_bk.ru mentioned this in D56648: users.7: Standard user account names.Sun, Apr 26, 8:27 PM
This revision was not accepted when it landed; it landed in state Needs Review.Tue, Apr 28, 1:54 PM
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