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en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/special/chapter.xml
4242

Spelling error, I think: s/garanties/guarantees/

mat marked an inline comment as done.May 4 2015, 3:34 PM
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en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/special/chapter.xml
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google translate agrees with you :-)

mat marked an inline comment as done.May 4 2015, 3:34 PM
gjb edited edge metadata.
This revision is now accepted and ready to land.May 4 2015, 3:43 PM
en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/special/chapter.xml
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This sentence goes in a circle from "when a port needs" to "dependencies the port needs". It is really at least two sentences.

Try to be declarative rather than using an if/then structure ("when" is better than if, but there is still a pause after it).

Maybe:

Ports that need Xfce libraries or applications set USES=xfce. Specific dependencies are set with values assigned to USE_XFCE as shown below.

4167

"current" is a little unclear. Does it mean "the list of dependencies that can be declared"?

4180

What does "own" mean? "Custom"? (And it should be capitalized in this title.)

4183

No "s" on "specific", and it would be more understandable with a dash (and no comma after "widgets"):

<application>GTK3</application>-specific widgets <package

4241–4246

This sentence is kind of hard to understand. The previous sentence says "There is no need to list the components..."

But then this one seems to contradict that. Maybe. There are two different starts to the sentence:

Note, however, that,
as always,

So... what is this really trying to say?

4242

Well, s/guarantees/guarantee/

but the meaning is still fuzzy.

en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/uses/chapter.xml
1387

s/port/the port/

en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/special/chapter.xml
4167

It means that in doubt, this file contains the reference code as the handbook may lag a bit. Maybe I should merge this paragraph and the one before the list. I'll try that.

4180

I have no idea, I don't use either Xfce or GTK3. Maybe the order of the words is wrong and it should be "Using Xfce's own GTK3 widgets"

4241–4246

you must list all the dependencies the port needs to build, and not count on a dependency to bring in something as it could change.

mat edited edge metadata.

Correct a few @wblock's comments, reword a few things, and convert the
itemizelist to a variablelist.

This revision now requires review to proceed.May 5 2015, 11:55 AM
mat edited edge metadata.

And update a title.

en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/special/chapter.xml
4132

I like this.

4217

No comma needed here. There is no pause, it just says "X uses A and B."

4241–4246

Aha! So is this

xfce components included this way will automatically include any dependencies they need.

However, xfce components and non-xfce dependencies of the port must be included explicitly. Do not count on an xfce component to provide a sub-dependency other than itself for the main port.

(An example might help.)

en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/special/chapter.xml
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I don't really have an example, I added that bit to remind people that THEY SHALL LIST ALL DEPENDENCIES EXPLICITLY :-)

Adding @olivierd here, he sent the original PR, I would like be sure that I did not change too much the spirit of things and wrote nonsense.

Update the tip with @wblock's ideas.

Management of xfce components is new with Xfce 4.12. In previous releases (<= 4.12) in Makefile we need to list each components explicitly, now it's not necessary, we use the same behaviour as GNOME.

E.g., misc/xfce4-weather-plugin (it's panel plugin)
Before (Xfce 4.12) xfce components are libmenu, libutil, and panel

Now, xfce component is panel, dependencies are automatically checked (libexo, garcon, libmenu, xfconf, libutil).

On our wiki page, there's a graph [1] which shows connection between each xfce components. In pink central point, often use in Makefiles.

I think it's more simple.

Why use GTK3 argument?
Because in x11/libxfce4menu (this port provides Xfce's specific widgets), they are built on top of GTK2, and GTK3 (optional, set by default).
Parole (multimedia player) requires these new widgets, and as most of Xfce's applications still use only GTK2 toolkit. If user build his own ports and unset this option, we need to check if these new widgets are installed or not.

[1] https://wiki.freebsd.org/Xfce?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=xfce4.png

gjb edited edge metadata.

It looks like this addresses Warren's comments, so okay by me. (Please wait for Warren to comment before commit first, in case there is something outstanding from his comments.)

This revision is now accepted and ready to land.May 8 2015, 10:55 AM

Phabricator seems a bit confused, and the comments are not lining up with the sections they refer to. It's hard to tell, but I think most things are fixed except the "libraries" and "applications" thing.

en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/special/chapter.xml
4129

Still needs
s/libraries/library/
s/applications/application/

mat marked 2 inline comments as done.May 12 2015, 10:29 AM
mat edited edge metadata.

Update.

This revision now requires review to proceed.May 12 2015, 10:29 AM
wblock edited edge metadata.

Works for me. Please remember to build-test before commit. Thanks!

This revision is now accepted and ready to land.May 12 2015, 2:23 PM