https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=5719
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also tested by Andy McClements on the mailing list :
https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=5856
https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=5857
https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=5858